The German-South African director (MAPANTSULA – 1988, LIFE ABOVE ALL / BELOVED LIFE – 2010, SHEPHERDS AND BUTCHERS / IN THE DEATH STREET – 2016) in conversation with Revolver co-editor Christoph Hochhäusler about his cinematic beginnings in the anti-apartheid struggle, his balancing act between festival successes and television comedies, and why the divisions between the camps are detrimental to cinema.